wanna join SWAT?

[landofjuan]

sir, pwede ako magkipag laro?? high end po bah gamit nyo lahat?? ty po..

[Gene]

landofjuan said:

sir, pwede ako magkipag laro?? high end po bah gamit nyo lahat?? ty po..

Hi Sir landofjuan!
Highend?? You mean, hindi China-made guns? Most of the members use Tokyo Marui, Classic Army, and G&G guns. Mas malalakas kesa sa China-made guns.

[landofjuan]

@ Gene

yes sir, high end means hindi ACM..

@ marlo

sir, asa mo naga dula sunday and wednesday??

[yammy]

mga sir, interested ko mo-join sa inyo. unsaon? i don't know anyone from your group. newbie ko sa airsoft. hopefully mga sir nga dile ko karnihon ko kung mo-apilapil ko sa inyo ... what fps rating ang inyo ma-suggest aron dile na mabitin sa inyo mga games? also, i preffered your group bcoz from what i've hear mas casual daw mo compared to the other group and which what i really preferred.

[yammy]

more inquiries mga sir, what setup do you usually play? what primary unit can you suggest, carbine or smg types?

[Marlo™]

yammy said:

more inquiries mga sir, what setup do you usually play? what primary unit can you suggest, carbine or smg types?

usual setup namo is m140 spring. others use m150. kusog jud sya pero grabe pud ang maintenance. naa pud naka m120 and m130. carbine or smg? depende lng sa imo kung unsa ang gusto nimo na porma kay parepareho lng sila ug performance.

yammy said:

mga sir, interested ko mo-join sa inyo. unsaon? i don't know anyone from your group. newbie ko sa airsoft. hopefully mga sir nga dile ko karnihon ko kung mo-apilapil ko sa inyo ... what fps rating ang inyo ma-suggest aron dile na mabitin sa inyo mga games? also, i preffered your group bcoz from what i've hear mas casual daw mo compared to the other group and which what i really preferred.

just PM me ur cel number para ma txt taka kung when and where ang game. dont worry kay boutan ang mga members sa swat....

[Gene]

Sir Yammy,
Di nagkakamali sa pagpili mo sa iyong desisyon. Welcome to SWAT Family!!!!

[davaoeagle]

Sir,

Welcome to SWAT-Davao!

[yammy]

mga bossing sorry karon lang ko rply, medyo busy na sad sa trabaho, na-assign na sad ko out of town for the meantime. sir marlo email na lang, email add nako [e-mail], sa email na lang ako cel #. don't know how to use private msg man gud . btw ako unit kay TM MP5SD5 stock, any recommendations or suggestions regarding sa ako unit?

[Marlo™]

email me your cel# at [e-mail]

or

PM nlang para mas dali.

heres how:

i-click lng ang name sa person na i PM nimo




then click:




then click send:

[Gene]

Kani ang ganahan nako dri sa SWAT Davao website..ang mga moderators ug ang mga myembro puro accomodating ug very friendly. ;D
Sir Yammy, if you have some friends, pls invite them to join SWAT. . . or nindot kung magdungan mo with your friends...or bring along some friends when you start playing with us.

[davaoeagle]

Sir Yammy,

These guides can help you in your plan to upgrade your AEG....


AEG Upgrade Guide

Types of Upgrade:

The standard parts in your AEG’s gearbox are built to work correctly with the standard spring that the AEG is supplied with. However if the spring is upgraded these parts MAY fail due to extra stress on them.

With this in mind most people upgrade other parts of the gearbox when upgrading the spring to give good reliability. The choice to upgrade other parts of the gearbox is completely up to the owner. There are usually three attitudes to upgrading a gearbox. None of these are right or wrong and most are based on personal experiences skirmishers have had with upgrading.

The economy upgrade
1. Some skirmishers are quite happy just upgrading the spring (and normally the bushings) without fitting any other upgrade parts. If, and when components break they are then replaced. This is a very cheap option and can last very well and produce good results however it is the most likely to break down.

The top half upgrade
2. Another method is to upgrade the most vital parts (usually parts in direct contact with the spring) as well as the new spring. This is also known as a “Top-half” upgrade and usually includes a new piston, piston head, spring guide set of bushings and a stronger spring. This is a good compromise between reliability and cost. However the gears are still standard so are still at risk. This upgrade SHOULD last longer then option 1 but could still fail just as quick or quicker.....

The full tune up kit / FTK
3. The last main option is a “Full Tune-up Kit” or “FTK”. This replaces all the parts in the top half upgrade as well as the gears, Cylinder and various other small components. It is very costly to fit an FTK and is seen by some as a waste of money with the springs we use in the UK (comparatively weak to other countries). This option should make the gearbox last a very long time and solve all reliability problems but they have been known to last no longer then a few 1000rds in some rarer (unlucky) cases.....

AEG Upgrade Guide:
Power Upgrades
Upgrading the power/muzzle velocity (FPS)

Springs:

When upgrading the internals of an AEG the most common goal is to increase the power or muzzle velocity (measured in FPS). To achieve this the most effective method is to upgrade the spring that pushes the piston forward for each shot.

There are many different strength springs available for AEG’s and there are a few different companies producing these springs. However the most commonly used make of spring is Systema so we will stick with these. Systema springs are rated using an “M” rating. This is a very rough estimate of how many meters per second a 0.20g bb will travel with the spring fitted. For example an M90 spring should propel a 0.20g bb at roughly 90 meters per second. The only spring that is rated differently is the 1J spring, which is rated by the power in joules it should produce rather then a mps rating.

The springs made by Systema range from M90 to M140 and above. In the UK the power/muzzle velocity of an AEG must be kept under 1.35j by law. 1.35j is roughly a reading of 378fps using a 0.20g bb. To keep AEG’s under this limit the only springs suitable are the M90, 1J & M100. The M90 is the lowest powered followed by the 1J with the M100 being the highest of the three.

Choosing the right spring.

Before I start I will state a definite fact:

Upgrading your AEG’s spring WILL decrease the lifespan of the other internal components!

This problem can be lessened by using other upgraded parts but more about that later....

The spring you choose will be decided by what you want from the upgrade.

The stronger the spring higher muzzle velocity the AEG will produce.
The stronger the spring the more damage it will do to the other gearbox components.
The stronger the spring the lower your R.O.F. (rate of fire) will be.
The stronger the spring the less shots you will get from your batteries per charge.

Some of these effects are worse then others. E.g. the battery life and ROF do not decrease that much when upgrading with the springs mentioned.

The other two effects vary vastly between different batches of springs and AEG’s.

For example an M100 could give 350 fps in one AEG and could do no damage at all to the guns internals for years. Or on the other hand an M100 could give 325fps and strip the gears in an other AEG after only a few 1000rds. As with most AEG upgrading, it’s down to luck.

These are rough estimates based on my experiences with the different springs:

M90: (these are no longer made and have been replaced by the 1J)
Should give about 310fps with a 0.20g bb and with no other power upgrades.

1J: (has replaced the M90)
Should give about 310-330fps with a 0.20g bb with no other power upgrades.

M100: (hardest spring used in AEG’s in the UK)
Should give about 335-360fps with a 0.20bb with no other power upgrades.

Bearing Spring Guide (also a reliability upgrade)

A small upgrade that increases the FPS of the AEG by 5-10fps. The spring guide is the rear guide rod that the spring is seated on. Systema make an upgraded version that is fitted with a bearing at its base, which will compress the spring more then, usual. This increases the FPS slightly and is a better quality component (stronger) then the original guide.

Air nozzle

A large selection of air nozzles are available for AEG’s. These nozzles are better quality then the standard part and provide a better seal between the cylinder and hop-up chamber/barrel. This upgrade can increase muzzle velocity but not by a noticeable amount.

It has been pointed out to me that standard Marui nozzles have been known to give better performance then so called "upgrade" versions.


TN Barrel (also an accuracy upgrade)

These are also known as high accuracy or 6.04mm barrels.

A replacement barrel is not really a power upgrade but I included it here for the reason that it MAY push the FPS of an AEG up by 5-10fps. This should be accounted for when you upgrade the spring. e.g. If your AEG has been upgraded to 325 fps and your local site limit is 328fps a TN barrel could push it over this limit.

Basically a TN barrel is just a replacement barrel that is of smaller diameter then the original barrel. As a TN barrel is really an accuracy upgrade click here for more info.





AEG Upgrade Guide R.O.F. upgradeds

R.O.F. UPGRADES

Increasing the R.O.F. (rate of fire) of your AEG will increase ware on other internal parts. The number fo shots before the gun fails will be the roughly the same as before upgrading R.O.F. but these shots will obviously take less time to be used as the R.O.F. is higher.

There are three main ways to increase the R.O.F. of your AEG.
These are:

Higher voltage batteries
8.4v batteries are standard in airsoft but increasing the voltage gives a much higher R.O.F. (rate of fire). Batteries are available in 9.6v, 10.8v and upwards. Each step up in voltage is achieved by the addition of another battery cell so obviously the higher the voltage of the pack the larger the overall battery pack size is. Most AEG’s will need to be modified to allow a larger battery to fit inside or an external battery bag will need to be used. Large foregrips are also available for some models and some configurations of batteries are made especially to fit in certain AEG’s.

Higher mah batteries will give a slight increase in R.O.F. but this isn’t noticeable in most cases. The main benefit of a higher capacity (Mah) battery is the life span. The higher the mah the more shots a battery will fire before it needs to be recharged.



High-speed Gears

Systema High-speed Gears
These gears have a different ratio to increase the guns R.O.F. They tend to be weaker then the other three types upgraded of gears so it is recommended that they are used with M90, 1J or standard springs only.



High-speed motors
Various high speed motors are available for AEG’s that will increase R.O.F. These motors will draw more power from the battery so don’t expect as many shots per charge when using them.

Hi-torque motors will increase R.O.F. but are usually designed for use with stiffer springs.

AEG Upgrade Guide
Accuracy Upgrade

TN barrels
The only Systema parts I wouldn’t recommend buying are their barrels. Many skirmishers have had problems with bad batches of Systema barrels and for this reason TN barrels made be KM are the most common choice.

TN barrels are made from steel rather then the brass that is used in stock guns. They are also coated with teflon to allow the bb’s to fly smoothly down the barrel with less friction. The main difference between a TN and the standard (stock) barrel is the diameter. TN barrels have a smaller diameter which prevents air escaping down the barrel and gives the bb a smoother flight path.

If the TN barrel chosen for an upgrade is longer then the original barrel, a new cylinder may be needed to avoid “suck back“.

TN barrels can increase power/FPS slightly.

AEG reliability upgrades;

Bushings
Bushings are plastic in standard Marui AEG’s so upgrading them is definitely a good idea when putting a more powerful spring or different gears in your AEG. The gears spin on these bushings so any gear stress is passed onto them.

Systema make two different sets of bushings:

Oiless
Oil less bushings are the most commonly used bushing when upgrading. These are metal instead of the standard plastic and are impregnated with oil to help the gears spins smoother in them. Oiless bushing should never need replacing as they are very hard wearing.

Ball bearing
Ball bearing bushing use a ball race is each bearing to supposedly give a smoother spin to the gears. These are not very often used, as they are weaker then the Oilless versions and make no noticeable difference to performance.

Gears
A stripped gear is the most usual cause of gearbox breakdowns. Systema makes a wide selection of gears that perform in different ways.

Systema Flat
These perform exactly the same as Marui but are much stronger and will cope with upgraded springs far better. These gears are the most common choice when upgrading an AEG.

Systema Helical
Helical gears have angled teeth to allow them to mesh better then the flat gears. These gears should be stronger then the flat gears, but in reality make little difference. If you intend to fit Helical gears you will also have to fit a piston with helical teeth.

Systema Hi-speed
These gears have a different ratio to increase the guns rate of fire (R.O.F.). They tend to be weaker then the other three types of upgraded gears so it is recommended that they are used with M90 springs or standard springs only.

Systema Torque-up
These gears provide more torque (surprisingly ; ) ) But are of little use with the springs used in the UK. Torque-up gears are only really of any use with springs above M100.

When fitting Systema gears into a TM gearbox make sure to get a pack of Systema gear shims/washers. as they are different sizes to the Marui versions.

Pistons and piston heads
Pistons are available in two different materials: aluminium or polycarbonate. Both are stronger then the original. Pistons are available with either flat or helical teeth (more on this later).

The most commonly used upgrade piston is the polycarbonate version. There is not much difference between the two but I think the polycarbonate has the edge in lower weight and higher strength.

Piston Heads
If the piston is upgraded it is normal practice to fit a new head piston head at the same time. Systema make three types of piston head:

Aluminium
The aluminium piston head is the most common piston head used for upgrades. It offers high strength and low weight. Bearings are fitted to the rear of this piston head to allow the spring to compress more easily.

Duracon
The duracon head performs much the same as the aluminium head. Bearings are fitted to the rear of this piston head to allow the spring to compress more easily.
Silent
This piston head comes in a set with a silent cylinder head. Both the cylinder head and piston head are cushioned to reduce the noise of the AEG’s action. Apart from the sound dampening effect this head performs much the same as the other two options

Cylinders
Cylinders are usually not upgraded as they make little difference to performance (if any).

Bore-up
These have a slightly larger volume then standard cylinders. They can be fitted when a longer barrel is fitted to avoid “suck back”. Bore-up cylinder should not be fitted to an AEG with its standard barrel as the FPS will decrease...

Coated
Various coated cylinders are available which allow the piston to move more smoothly but these tend to make no noticeable difference.

Spring guide
A small upgrade that increases the FPS of the AEG by 5-10fps. The spring guide is the rear guide rod that the spring is seated on. Systema make an upgraded version that is fitted with a bearing at its base which will compress the spring more then usual. This increases the FPS slightly and is a better quality component (stronger) then the original guide.

Other parts
Other re-enforced parts are available:

Anti reverse latch
Small spring set
Tappet plate
Switch unit

These all perform the same as the standard Marui parts but have slightly improved quality.


Here's the 2nd part:

AEG Upgrade Guide Examples:

The bellow list shows which parts are needed to upgrade to either 328 or 350fps using each upgrade method. The upgrade methods are viewable.

All FPS values are approximate and are based around using a 6mm .2g bb.

Remember using a TN barrel can increase the FPS of your AEG which can be good or bad depending on your current FPS and site limits.

Upgrading Using Method 1 (the economy upgrade))

328fps

Systema 1J Spring
Systema Oilless Bushings

Systema Bearing Spring Guide (only needed if 1J spring does not increase FPS close enough to 328)

To 350fps

Systema M100 Spring
Systema Oilless Bushings

Systema Bearing Spring Guide (only needed if 1J spring does not increase FPS close enough to 328)






Upgrading Using Method 2
(top half upgrade)

328fps

Systema 1J Spring
Systema Oilless Bushings
Systema Aluminium Piston Head
Systema Polycarb Piston
Systema Bearing Spring Guide (this part may increase the FPS to over 328)

350fps

Systema M100 Spring
Systema Oilless Bushings
Systema Aluminium Piston Head
Systema Polycarb Piston
Systema Bearing Spring Guide (this part may increase the FPS to over 350)

Upgrading Using Method 3
(full tune up kit/FTK)

Nice and simple,

Just buy a Systema FTK. I would stay away from the FTK's that include High speed gears as these tend to be weak.....

328fps

Most FTK's come with very high powered springs so specify that you want a 1J spring with it.

350fps

Most FTK's come with very high powered springs so specify that you want an M100 spring with it.